- October 5, 2008 at 6:29 am #9244glassartguyParticipant
I was plannig on attending a class at Bullseye, about image transfer with a laser printer. But it is one hour on a Sunday and it seems a bit much to drive down there from Bremerton and back for a one hour class. I know I have see some discussion about it in this forum (I think I even added to it). I’ve tried a few things and have been very unsucessful. I bought some “decal paper” and ended up with a black blob. Any guidance out there or a website to help?October 6, 2008 at 4:04 pm #10888
I use the Decal paper extensively and they are fairly simple. You should not get a blob. First, The paper is only good for laser printers. Make sure you use that.
Second be sure to remove the protective film form the decal paper before printing on it.then when it is made, but out your decal and soak it for 45seconds to 1 min and then slide it on to the glass.
Make sure you are doing the above and give it another try.
Barry KaiserOctober 9, 2008 at 7:33 pm #10889petra kaiserParticipant
which deacal paper are you using? And does any laser printer work, since I have seen discussions about laser printers and to be carful to buy just a certain kind of toner. I own a HP laser printer and got my toner from a recycle company.
petra kaiser – http://www.kaiserlee.comOctober 9, 2008 at 9:32 pm #10890
I use Beldecal’s paper. I think that they are pretty much all the same.
As to printers, you do need to use a laser toner that has Iron Oxide in sufficient concentration to create the color. All HP printers do have it. I too refill my cartridges and the refill I use works fine.
Barry KaiserOctober 9, 2008 at 10:30 pm #10891petra kaiserParticipant
thank you for the tip, I just was at their web site and found the paper – is it correct, that you don’t fire those deacals? Would they be scratch resistent?
petra kaiser – http://www.kaiserlee.comOctober 10, 2008 at 1:09 am #10892
You DO fire the decals. They are fired into the glass.
Beldecal has several different types of paper. There is one that is used for firing. That is the one to use. Delphi and several other companies have it.
Barry KaiserOctober 10, 2008 at 3:48 pm #10893JolindaParticipant
Thanks for your interesting information…and for the great site of your work!
I’m wondering if you could explain the difference between photo silkscreening and
these decals in getting images into glass. I’m aware they are different processes,
but I’m not clear about the differing results or expense, technique and time differences. I’m interested in working at the 2-3 ‘ size…would this also be appropriate in that application? Are you familiar with this?
Windows listen attentively for the sound of broken glass.October 10, 2008 at 7:15 pm #10894glassartguyParticipant
Barry, Thanks for the information. I got on your site and can see that you have got this process down. I got on Beldecal’s website and call me dumb, but It couldn’t seem to find the paper for glass or ceramic that I would actually order. Any guidance? Also, I noticed that you said you refill your own toner cartridges. Where do you get the materials and instructions? Also, is there any way that you know of to actually find out if, for instance, Samsung laser printers use the iron oxidie that is needed. I know I could/should search for this information myself, however, you seem to have the ansewers that I’m looking for, hope you don’t mind. DonOctober 10, 2008 at 8:05 pm #10895
Jolinda and Don,
I’ll try and answer both of your questions. First, the process of making a silk screened decal is probably far beyond where you want to go. The decals we are talking about here are only the sepia colored ones made on a laser printer. The full color decals involve silk screening colors onto the paper and then covering them with gelatin.
Don, I have to agree with you about the confusion on papers. I originally bought a large supply of the decal paper from Beldecal because I use it in two of my classes.After looking at the site, I don’t know for sure which one I bought, but I think it is the regular clear laser paper. I would suggest you call them and ask.
Barry KaiserOctober 10, 2008 at 8:07 pm #10896
I am sorry, this is one answer I do not have. I don’t know if the Samsung works.
Barry KaiserOctober 16, 2008 at 1:41 pm #10897JolindaParticipant
Thanks so much for your help and information. You’re right this is a bit complicated
from where I sit now…and your classes are just too far away from San Diego!
Thanks again for your care…
Windows listen attentively for the sound of broken glass.October 19, 2008 at 2:57 am #10898marleneis50Participant
Would a fellow glass-a-holic please tell me where and what kind of decals I use for fusing onto glass? I saw some pics on the web of some great glass decals. One that I especially liked was of a Mardis Gras face. In my searching on the web, I found pretty generic ones (dragonfly, butterfly, cross)…but nothing like that one.
I live in the U.S. Any suggestions out there? Thanks!September 7, 2009 at 6:45 pm #10899Glass DreamsParticipant
Is anyone screenprinting directly onto glass? I have sprinkled powdered enamels and inclusions, but would like to use screenprinting techniques. Is there a binder that people have had some success in using to screenprint the powders? I was thinking of watered down school glue, but if someone has used it and found it forms bubbles frequently or creates a dark “burn smear” then I’d just as soon not do that experiment. Thanks for the posts.
Glass DreamsSeptember 9, 2009 at 6:37 pm #10887Stephen RichardParticipantSeptember 10, 2009 at 2:52 pm #10886Glass DreamsParticipant
Thanks! Never heard of it before this. I found it on the Internet next to clove oil (more expensive but sounds like it smells good). I think that I’ll just stick with squeege oil when I do some experimentation. Glass Dreams
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